Patriots
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New England Patriots
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Post by Patriots on Aug 5, 2009 20:21:52 GMT
Yeah, that seems a good solution, it's too inflexible in terms of positions at the moment, imo.
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Post by Packers on Aug 5, 2009 20:33:25 GMT
I believe we can all make due with 50 players, however we will need cash or reduce a few contracts so we are able to replace IR , FA or offer extensions or offer RFA 10% qualifing offer. Unless there is a open window before things start but that would be a headache for the comish.
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Chargers
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Jay Krause
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Post by Chargers on Aug 5, 2009 20:34:44 GMT
I can make do with 50 players, its just making do with 50 players while worrying about the Cap and possition quota
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Post by Commissioner on Aug 5, 2009 23:03:09 GMT
Jeezaloo! I'll try and answer all points raised as best I can. Whe you say penalized $1mil....$1mil of what? Is it deducted from our salary cap for this season? Or added to the expenditure? And when does it then return to normal. Or am I looking at this the wrong way and its not actually that confusing... The penalty comes off your salary cap until the end of that season. It returns to normal once the season is completed. So if you release a player on a 1-year deal worth $1m your salary cap will be $124m. And when you trade players, do they remain on the same contract with the other team? Or do you have to offer another one - for example, you trade in a player with 5 years left, do you have to fulfill their contract from the other team? I hadn't thought of that. I will think it over but my initial impression is that you would need to honour their contract. However I need to give some thought to whether clubs should be able to extend the contract. So then if we have a player who isn't a starter but has a 3 yr contract for 3 mil we have to just sit and watch it play as nobody has 9 mil to drop let alone get a FA for .5 that will sit on bench. Then why is there FA's? or can we drop these bench warmers that are over priced before we start? A player earning that kind of money will be of interest to somebody so you would have to look at trading them off. In reality teams have guys who are not all that good on their roster. There are no super teams anymore. I'm not willing to consider an amnesty where teams can cut players without penalty. Would a player in real life simply allow his employer to tear up a 3-year deal worth $9m? No. With amount of players who are on 1 year left at the moment, extending all of their contracts by just 1 year will surely leave me well over the cap...so I have to let them become free agents and sign them on for the same fee or find cheaper equal or cheaper replacements... Basically, yes. Most players would test their arm in free agency on the hope of landing a bigger deal. Yep - I think as it is structured at the moment we are going to have dead weight on the bench which can't be shifted. Only hope is that these guys improve in training camp, otherwise its wait until contract ends, then (I presume they drop off your roster) and you have a vacant slot to be filled by a FA or draft. That's correct. As I said the days of super teams are long gone. Every team in the DFL has some talent (some more than others), some solid back-ups and some rubbish. It's the same as real life and ultimately it boils down to complying with the salary cap. Drafting - hey thats a point with even more complication - what if you don't have say 7 slots (through retirement/expired contracts) what happens to your drafts..... now even more confused. If you don't have enough space you could trade a current year draft pick for a future pick or simply waive your pick.
I think we may have to adopt a system where you can have more than 50 (say up to 60 or 70 ) But can only submit a 50 man squad in your orders and just adjust the salary cap to compensate. Maybe make a practice sqaud system where training points count double? This is a possibility in the future. I am considering how we can introduce practice squad, waivers and injury reserves however that will be for next season at the earliest. On the draft howw many players will we be able to choose from At this stage I don't know but with 32 teams each having 7 picks there will be around 220 players. Hopefully that answers everything. The DFL is still a work in progress and no doubt some things won't work as well as I hoped. Your feedback, suggestions and comments are welcomed and I'm sure in time we will build a game that really delivers.
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Chargers
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Jay Krause
Posts: 79
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Post by Chargers on Aug 5, 2009 23:16:15 GMT
Well, I feel alot better about it now. Just means I'll have to wait for next preseason for the overhaul so its all gd.
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Post by Commissioner on Aug 6, 2009 0:10:12 GMT
Well, I feel alot better about it now. Just means I'll have to wait for next preseason for the overhaul so its all gd. Exactly. The off-season gives people the chance to rebuild and reshape their team. How many coaches are able to completely overhaul a team in their first season in charge?
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Post by Packers on Aug 6, 2009 3:13:55 GMT
A player earning that kind of money will be of interest to somebody so you would have to look at trading them off. In reality teams have guys who are not all that good on their roster. There are no super teams anymore.
I'm not willing to consider an amnesty where teams can cut players without penalty. Would a player in real life simply allow his employer to tear up a 3-year deal worth $9m? No.
A player with that kind of money has no interest to other teams being a 7th round pick with no playing value. Can't give away let alone trade. Can't drop. Becomes dead weight. No player would let a team tear up a contract is true. But also no team would pay a 7th rd pick 9 mil with no talent so that they are tied up with no room to move. Afraid there is nothing to coach till next off season.
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Bears
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Chicago Bears Coach
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Post by Bears on Aug 6, 2009 7:16:02 GMT
Comm, thank you for the explanations above. It has certainly helped with understanding, which is where I think most coaches were struggling (well I was).
I think key here is that this is "Dynnasty" football league and it shouldn't be a case that you can solve all your problems with all quick fixes. You need to plan for the longer term and the rule set more or less forces you to do this.
I guess this means it will possibly be a disappointment for a few coaches for hopes of winning the Stella Bowl in the first year, given that we had actual 2009 rosters, and in the most part very limited headroom to make changes. It will be interesting to see how well the "good" teams do versus "bad" teams.
Actually here is a question. Is there anyway to rank the teams we have each selected as at say today (1-32), and then chart ranking at the end of each season. Would be a great way to monitor the fallers and risers over a long period? The end of season ranking would be easy - not sure how you might rank the start.
Edit - answering my own question I guess for a starting position one might use the 2009 draft ranking as near an approx as any - although you might expect that the true starting ranking would be impacted by the drafts taken.
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Post by Commissioner on Aug 6, 2009 9:50:46 GMT
A player with that kind of money has no interest to other teams being a 7th round pick with no playing value. Can't give away let alone trade. Can't drop. Becomes dead weight. No player would let a team tear up a contract is true. But also no team would pay a 7th rd pick 9 mil with no talent so that they are tied up with no room to move. Afraid there is nothing to coach till next off season. I accept that guys rated with mainly 1s and 2s have little to offer to your team but on the whole the simulator allocates these players salarys of a maximum of $1m. I'll reiterate that players with 4s and 5s are the exception. Players with 3s should be regarded as good players who offer something to your team or others. Players with 2s are back up and players with 1s are either rookies who may kick on or guys who should be on the way out. If you can show me a 7th round pick eanring $3m a year who has no 3 ratings then I'll be happy to sort it out.
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Post by Commissioner on Aug 6, 2009 9:53:36 GMT
Actually here is a question. Is there anyway to rank the teams we have each selected as at say today (1-32), and then chart ranking at the end of each season. Would be a great way to monitor the fallers and risers over a long period? The end of season ranking would be easy - not sure how you might rank the start. I like this idea and will look into it. The poll we had regarding rosters was a landslide in favour of running with the current rosters which I what I preferred personally. If the Lions win this year it'll be a miracle but like you say the challenge is exceeding expectations and then kicking on next season.
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Bears
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Chicago Bears Coach
Posts: 47
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Post by Bears on Aug 6, 2009 10:26:27 GMT
[quote author=admin board=discussion thread=47 post=168 time=1249552416
I like this idea and will look into it.
The poll we had regarding rosters was a landslide in favour of running with the current rosters which I what I preferred personally. If the Lions win this year it'll be a miracle but like you say the challenge is exceeding expectations and then kicking on next season.[/quote]
Excellent.
I too am pleased to be running with actual teams for the first season. Given this thread can you imagine the pain there would have been to start from scratch...
the more I think about this the more I think that this will be my measure of success as a coach i.e have I improved my relative position since last year, average increase (decrease!) in position since appointment and average ranking since appointment. (<= thinking about what stats might be good to report). Of course there are the others such as win/loss/pts etc.
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Buccaneers
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Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Posts: 38
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Post by Buccaneers on Aug 6, 2009 10:29:28 GMT
when plaayers run out of contract can you let them go without paying penalty to make room foor draft pics and FA
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Post by Commissioner on Aug 6, 2009 10:31:07 GMT
when plaayers run out of contract can you let them go without paying penalty to make room foor draft pics and FA Yes, of course. When a contract runs out the player becomes a free agent and is removed from your roster.
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Buccaneers
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Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Posts: 38
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Post by Buccaneers on Aug 6, 2009 10:33:48 GMT
good i have about 8 this year that have no contract from next year that i feel are useless in my roster and feel signing young draft picks would be more benifitial looking at seasons to come
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Redskins
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Washington Redskins
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Post by Redskins on Aug 7, 2009 22:43:50 GMT
I'd go 53 and then 50 active game day
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